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	<title>Comments on: A simple recurrence that produces complex behavior &#8212; and primes!</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Rowland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I created a Demonstration to explore the recurrence, and it was recently published:

http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/PrimeGeneratingRecurrence/

You can grab the source code and play with it yourself, if you&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I created a Demonstration to explore the recurrence, and it was recently published:</p>
<p><a href="http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/PrimeGeneratingRecurrence/" rel="nofollow">http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/PrimeGeneratingRecurrence/</a></p>
<p>You can grab the source code and play with it yourself, if you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Uma nova relação de recorrência geradora de números primos e 1&#8217;s demonstrada por Eric Rowland &#171; problemas &#124; teoremas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uma nova relação de recorrência geradora de números primos e 1&#8217;s demonstrada por Eric Rowland &#171; problemas &#124; teoremas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] zeta de Riemann publicados há uns anos na Internet. Adenda de 31-7-2008: Eric Rowland publicou aqui o seu próprio post (A simple recurrence that produces complex behavior — and primes!) sobre a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] zeta de Riemann publicados há uns anos na Internet. Adenda de 31-7-2008: Eric Rowland publicou aqui o seu próprio post (A simple recurrence that produces complex behavior — and primes!) sobre a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rowland</title>
		<link>http://thenksblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/a-simple-recurrence-that-produces-complex-behavior-and-primes/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you probably can&#039;t always tell the difference.  But often it&#039;s a matter of simplicity.  I think engineered objects tend to be more complex, in some sense, than objects that were found by search or just randomly written down.  It&#039;s a matter of size -- the more components, the larger the space you have to search through.

In the case of prime-generating formulas, we can tell that previous formulas were explicitly constructed to generate primes because in practice they don&#039;t generate any primes at all.  So they certainly weren&#039;t discovered (by random search) to have this property.  For example, Mills&#039; function (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MillsTheorem.html), as far as we can tell, requires you to explicitly put in any primes you will ever get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you probably can&#8217;t always tell the difference.  But often it&#8217;s a matter of simplicity.  I think engineered objects tend to be more complex, in some sense, than objects that were found by search or just randomly written down.  It&#8217;s a matter of size &#8212; the more components, the larger the space you have to search through.</p>
<p>In the case of prime-generating formulas, we can tell that previous formulas were explicitly constructed to generate primes because in practice they don&#8217;t generate any primes at all.  So they certainly weren&#8217;t discovered (by random search) to have this property.  For example, Mills&#8217; function (<a href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MillsTheorem.html)" rel="nofollow">http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MillsTheorem.html)</a>, as far as we can tell, requires you to explicitly put in any primes you will ever get out.</p>
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		<title>By: un1crom</title>
		<link>http://thenksblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/a-simple-recurrence-that-produces-complex-behavior-and-primes/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>un1crom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you mean exactly by expressly engineered for this purpose?

is there a real difference between discovery and engineering an algorithm?  would you know the difference if I show you a set of engineered formula versus discovered?

Russ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do you mean exactly by expressly engineered for this purpose?</p>
<p>is there a real difference between discovery and engineering an algorithm?  would you know the difference if I show you a set of engineered formula versus discovered?</p>
<p>Russ</p>
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